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《圣经》及点评

楼主
发表于 2008-1-9 00:13:00 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览
相信中国人真正认真看过《圣经》的不多。在没有认真看过的情况下就发表观点显然难以服众。如果跟风信仰就更可悲了。既然如此,咱就一条一条、一句一句的列出来,让大家评说。感兴趣的可以探讨,不感兴趣的就不要往下看了。看了后悔不要怪我。中间也会参杂一些知名人士对《圣经》内容的评论以及我个人的观点和质疑。
  
  在我看来,《圣经》是古人对天地万物真相的一种探索,跟其他传说没有任何区别。但为什么“女娲补天”、“后羿射日”、“封神演义”没能演化成为宗教,而《圣经》却有如次强大的生命力。虽历经刀剑血火,却依然没有退出历史的舞台,反而在中国这片神奇的土地找到了烟火相传的领地。
  
  中国宗教事务局局长叶小文最近在北京大学和中国社会科学院的两次内部会议上披露,目前中国基督徒人数约有1.3亿,其中包括2千万天主教徒。这还是2006年的数据。基督教在中国的发展之迅猛可见一斑。
  
  闲话少说,先看《创世纪》:
  
  
  旧约 -- 创世记(Genesis)
  
  1:1 起初神创造天地。
  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
  
  
  1:2 地是空虚混沌。渊面黑暗。神的灵运行在水面上。
  And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
  
  
  1:3 神说,要有光,就有了光。
  And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
  
  
  1:4 神看光是好的,就把光暗分开了。
  And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
  
  
  1:5 神称光为昼,称暗为夜。有晚上,有早晨,这是头一日。
  And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
  
  
  1:6 神说,诸水之间要有空气,将水分为上下。
  And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
  
  
  1:7 神就造出空气,将空气以下的水,空气以上的水分开了。事就这样成了。
  And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
  
  
  1:8 神称空气为天。有晚上,有早晨,是第二日。
  And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
  
  
  1:9 神说,天下的水要聚在一处,使旱地露出来。事就这样成了。
  And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
  
  
  1:10 神称旱地为地,称水的聚处为海。神看是好的。
  And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
  
  
  1:11 神说,地要发生青草,和结种子的菜蔬,并结果子的树木,各从其类,果子都包着核。事就这样成了。
  And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
  
  
  1:12 于是地发生了青草,和结种子的菜蔬,各从其类,并结果子的树木,各从其类,果子都包着核。神看着是好的。
  And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
  
  
  1:13 有晚上,有早晨,是第三日。
  And the evening and the morning were the third day.
  
  
  1:14 神说,天上要有光体,可以分昼夜,作记号,定节令,日子,年岁。
  And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
  
  
  1:15 并要发光在天空,普照在地上。事就这样成了。
  And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
  
  
  1:16 于是神造了两个大光,大的管昼,小的管夜。又造众星。
  And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
  
  
  1:17 就把这些光摆列在天空,普照在地上。
  And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
  
  
  1:18 管理昼夜,分别明暗。神看着是好的。
  And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

  
  
  1:19 有晚上,有早晨,是第四日。
  And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
  
  
  1:20 神说,水要多多滋生有生命的物,要有雀鸟飞在地面以上,天空之中。
  And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
  
  
  1:21 神就造出大鱼和水中所滋生各样有生命的动物,各从其类。又造出各样飞鸟,各从其类。神看着是好的。
  And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
  
  
  1:22 神就赐福给这一切,说,滋生繁多,充满海中的水。雀鸟也要多生在地上。
  And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
  
  
  1:23 有晚上,有早晨,是第五日。
  And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
  
  
  1:24 神说,地要生出活物来,各从其类。牲畜,昆虫,野兽,各从其类。事就这样成了。
  And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
  
  
  1:25 于是神造出野兽,各从其类。牲畜,各从其类。地上一切昆虫,各从其类。神看着是好的。
  And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
  
  
  1:26 神说,我们要照着我们的形像,按着我们的样式造人,使他们管理海里的鱼,空中的鸟,地上的牲畜,和全地,并地上所爬的一切昆虫。
  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
  
  
  1:27 神就照着自己的形像造人,乃是照着他的形像造男造女。
  So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
  
  
  1:28 神就赐福给他们,又对他们说,要生养众多,遍满地面,治理这地。也要管理海里的鱼,空中的鸟,和地上各样行动的活物。
  And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
  
  
  1:29 神说,看哪,我将遍地上一切结种子的菜蔬和一切树上所结有核的果子,全赐给你们作食物。
  And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
  
  
  1:30 至于地上的走兽和空中的飞鸟,并各样爬在地上有生命的物,我将青草赐给它们作食物。事就这样成了。
  And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
  
  
  1:31 神看着一切所造的都甚好。有晚上,有早晨,是第六日。
  And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
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沙发
发表于 2008-1-9 00:15:00 |只看该作者

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神用六天的时间创造万物,包括人,人管理万物。
  
  这个宇宙模型跟清朝以前国人的认知以及西游记里的模型差不多,分天上和地上。天上有日月星辰,日是白天的光源,月是夜晚的光源。天包着地,从外观上看起来像个鸡蛋。
  
  关于神造人的描述有些好玩。《圣经》说神照着自己的样子(image)造了男人和女人。可见神集合了今日所有人的特征,是不折不扣的四不像。

地板
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lz在干什么?

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点评圣经????
  
  
  买糕的~!!!!!!!!!

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发表于 2008-1-9 00:17:00 |只看该作者

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看完圣经,我惟一的感觉就是我果然没有宗教天赋,我在里面只看见了GOD的变态和残忍。

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圣经就是一堆人花几千年的时间写的一部神话故事

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发表于 2008-1-9 00:19:00 |只看该作者

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用人的思维终究是不能理解神的话语的。

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创世记(Genesis) -- 第 2 章
  
  
  2:1 天地万物都造齐了。
  Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
  
  
  2:2 到第七日,神造物的工已经完毕,就在第七日歇了他一切的工,安息了。
  And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
  
  
  2:3 神赐福给第七日,定为圣日,因为在这日神歇了他一切创造的工,就安息了。
  And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
  
  /*************************************************************
  
  “礼拜日”就是根据这个来的。
  
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  2:4 创造天地的来历,在耶和华神造天地的日子,乃是这样。
  These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
  
  /************************************************************
  注意,前面写的都是“神”(God),到这以后都变成LORD GOD(耶和华神)了。让我怀疑除了LORD GOD,是不是还有别的神也在“造天地”。因为后面大家会看到,耶和华神只是犹太人的神。他对犹太以外的世界基本是漠不关心,除非犹太人以外的人种对犹太人造成了伤害,他才会惩罚那些人种。
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  2:5 野地还没有草木,田间的菜蔬还没有长起来,因为耶和华神还没有降雨在地上,也没有人耕地。
  And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
  
  
  2:6 但有雾气从地上腾,滋润遍地。
  But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
  
  
  2:7 耶和华神用地上的尘土造人,将生气吹在他鼻孔里,他就成了有灵的活人,名叫亚当。
  And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
  
  /*********************************************************
  类似中国的神话传说!
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  2:8 耶和华神在东方的伊甸立了一个园子,把所造的人安置在那里。
  And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
  
  
  2:9 耶和华神使各样的树从地里长出来,可以悦人的眼目,其上的果子好作食物。园子当中又有生命树和分别善恶的树。
  And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
  
  
  2:10 有河从伊甸流出来,滋润那园子,从那里分为四道。
  And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
  
  
  2:11 第一道名叫比逊,就是环绕哈腓拉全地的。在那里有金子,
  The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
  
  
  2:12 并且那地的金子是好的。在那里又有珍珠和红玛瑙。
  And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
  
  
  2:13 第二道河名叫基训,就是环绕古实全地的。
  And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
  
  
  2:14 第三道河名叫西底结,流在亚述的东边。第四道河就是幼发拉底河。
  And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
  
  
  2:15 耶和华神将那人安置在伊甸园,使他修理看守。
  And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
  
  
  2:16 耶和华神吩咐他说,园中各样树上的果子,你可以随意吃。
  And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
  
  
  2:17 只是分别善恶树上的果子,你不可吃,因为你吃的日子必定死。
  But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
  
  /************************************************************
  后来亚当没死,还活了几百岁。不过基督徒会说,你不能把神说的“死” 理解成你想象的死,那我只好说你也不能把神说的“信”理解成你想象的信。争论的结果是《圣经》的意义不可知。
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  2:18 耶和华神说,那人独居不好,我要为他造一个配偶帮助他。
  And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
  
  
  2:19 耶和华神用土所造成的野地各样走兽和空中各样飞鸟都带到那人面前,看他叫什么。那人怎样叫各样的活物,那就饲它的名字。
  And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
  
  
  2:20 那人便给一切牲畜和空中飞鸟,野地走兽都起了名。只是那人没有遇见配偶帮助他。
  And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
  
  
  2:21 耶和华神使他沉睡,他就睡了。于是取下他的一条肋骨,又把肉合起来。
  And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
  
  
  2:22 耶和华神就用那人身上所取的肋骨,造成一个女人,领她到那人跟前。
  And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
  
  
  2:23 那人说,这是我骨中的骨,肉中的肉,可以称她为女人,因为她是从男人身上取出来的。
  And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
  
  
  2:24 因此,人要离开父母与妻子连合,二人成为一体。
  Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
  
  
  2:25 当时夫妻二人赤身露体,并不羞耻。
  And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
  
  /*************************************************************
  这一章主要讲了耶和华神造天地万物和亚当和夏娃的过程。里面说的“肋骨”事件今天大家已经都知道事实了,就不批了。只是要注意的一点是女人是依附男人的,是男人身体的一部分。但现在的男姓同姓恋、女姓同姓恋就要受到神的诅咒了。我造了你们,让你们异姓结合,结果你们竟然对我说的话置若罔闻,你不入地狱谁入地狱!呜呼哀哉!
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用人的思维终究是不能理解神的话语的。
  
  /**********************************************************
  你的这个说辞已经被教徒们引用了个十百千万遍。我上面已经回复了,如果用人的思维不能理解神的话语的话,《圣经》就失去意义了。
  
  我不打算否定《圣经》的意义,我也不能。就像不能否定《大藏经》、《可兰经》、《史记》、《论语》、《荷马史诗》一样,这些都是人类文明发展过程中的智慧结晶。
  
  我要说的只是取精华、去糟粕,不要盲目接受,更不能迷信。
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/*********************************************************
    类似中国的神话传说!
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  几乎世界各个民族都有大水的传说,在中国的传说中,人也是用泥土造的。这些仅仅是巧合吗,这是一个疑问。

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    后来亚当没死,还活了几百岁。不过基督徒会说,你不能把神说的“死” 理解成你想象的死,那我只好说你也不能把神说的“信”理解成你想象的信。争论的结果是《圣经》的意义不可知。
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  上帝说人吃了善恶果,必然会死。这个预言为什么没有实现?
    
    首先这里的死是指灵的死亡,因为这件事使得人与神远离,在灵上是立时死亡的了。“身体没有灵魂是死的” [雅 2:26]
    其次, 亚当由此未获永生,他的肉体虽然存活,但930年后还是死了,所以神并没有说错。亚当本来不用面对死,但在吃了果子后的一刻起他的结局就是死,人活900年也好,1000年也好,在天上只是一日而已。

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/*************************************************************
    这一章主要讲了耶和华神造天地万物和亚当和夏娃的过程。里面说的“肋骨”事件今天大家已经都知道事实了,就不批了。只是要注意的一点是女人是依附男人的,是男人身体的一部分。但现在的男姓同姓恋、女姓同姓恋就要受到神的诅咒了。我造了你们,让你们异姓结合,结果你们竟然对我说的话置若罔闻,你不入地狱谁入地狱!呜呼哀哉!
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  难道你觉得同姓恋是值得提倡的吗?
  难道你觉得同姓恋是合乎自然的吗?
  
  很遗憾,这是事实,在世界上所有的文化中同姓恋都是个贬义词。同姓恋者也的确受到神的诅咒,索多玛城也是因此而亡。
  
  [罗 1:26]
    因此,神任凭他们放纵可羞耻的情欲。他们的女人把顺姓的用处变为逆姓的用处;
  
  [罗 1:27]
    男人也是如此,弃了女人顺姓的用处,欲火攻心,彼此贪恋,男和男行可羞耻的事,就在自己身上受这妄为当得的报应。

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这个帖子开得有点水!手边上就一个圣经电子中英文本,感觉你就是COPY来COPY去啊!!!
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